No return to Dark Decade

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South Wales Evening Post

SOME councillors in Neath Port Talbot are making predictions about the county heading back to the dark days of the soup kitchen. Are they justified or scaremongering?

The soup kitchen and the hunger march are haunting images from the 1930s. The Great Depression, and the social and political consequences that saw the rise of totalitarian regimes across Europe, have led to the era being dubbed The Dark Decade or the Decade Of Shame.

There are similarities between then and now; we are in an economic crisis, and are governed by a coalition in Westminster.

But no Stalin or Hitler stalks the political landscape. Current unemployment is far from the levels of mass joblessness in the 30s.

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The councillors' predictions have been sparked, rather, by changes to benefits. They claim the UK Government is deliberately driving us back to the 30s.

The question is: why would it want to do so?

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  • Profile image for CornDolly

    by CornDolly

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 6:32PM

    “Set man against man and you win the war. Where was the Labour Government of 13 years to give hope to the working man? Why did so many of our jobs go abroad for cheap labour under a Labour Government? Why has Germany retained their manufacturing base when their wage structure is higher than the UK's?

    I remember the first time I heard Gordon Brown speak of 'the global economy'. How we all had to trade on a level playing field across the world. Well I think it is time we looked after our own and instead of buying from abroad and supporting economies who take our jobs and do it for a tenth of the pay it is about time we started to invest in our own children, our own jobs and our own food harvests.

    The 'global economy' is not a level playing field and it is deliberate policy to reduce the living standards of people in the UK. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and all you can do is squabble as to who is the better half of the poor.

    Yes 'let them eat cake' and yes we all know what happened next.”

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    by Neathboy234

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 5:50PM

    “I have been very lucky during my working life. Always been in a job since my 16th birthday. Also always earned above average money, mainly due to the fact i have worked shifts for almost 30 years. When the wife wasn't working when the children were young, i was also lucky there was plenty of overtime about. Often i would work 80 hours a week. My record time spent in work is 112 hours in a single week. IE 16 hours a day 7 days a week.

    As i said i have been lucky, nothing more. Those of you who think it's great fun having to get by on £68 a week, obviously haven't tried it. There are many problems here in the UK at the moment , making the poor even more poor will not solve them thats for sure.”

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    by sochat

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 1:03PM

    “"williamwaun

    Are you insinuating the proletariat can actually read,well there is neathboy but i thought him to be the exception.”

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    by dick_e

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 9:44AM

    “@williamwaun:"This generation have had it to easy for far to long... Lets hope they get a kick up the backside and get their benefits cut."

    I assume from that statement that you have never spent any time on benefit - otherwise you would understand that trying to survive day in day out on benefit is far from easy. In case you didn't know, Getting a job in a society where jobs are (and always have been) scarce is far from easy.

    Are you insinuating that our society forces those with disabilities and those without work to live without any money, or for them to move away from their homes in the vain hope they might find employment elsewhere?

    Narrow minded, foolish and ill-informed I would suggest that to be, sir. This is not the 18th century and your old fashioned values are not relevant to this day and age.

    The mines are closed and the "war" being acted out now is a war of attrition and instrument of propaganda for the home audience. Certainly not the same as WW2- ie the defence of the country and something to actually fight- and die for
    "”

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    by immigrant1

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 6:45AM

    “williamwaun - excellent comment from you. But looks like the workshy people are pressing the down arrow. They want to continue to be lazy and have everything for free.”

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    by GretaCarbo

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 7:41PM

    “Godwin's Law states that the first person to mention Hitler or Stalin loses the argument.”

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    by williamwaun

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 7:03PM

    “The problem is, there are loads of people from Neath Port Palbot and the valleys, who have never done a days work in their life time. There are many who claim benefits free housing and council taxes. Now the changes are coming which is overdue. It's time they get these people back into work especially the younger generation. When my parents and grandparents finished school at 14 they went into the mines or sent to war. And if there wasn't jobs around they would move away where there was work. This generation have had it to easy for far to long.

    Lets hope they get a kick up the backside and get their benefits cut. Change is coming so get used to it.”

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    by Neathboy234

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 6:48PM

    “by sochatSaturday, "Let them eat cake."

    And we all know what happened to the last person that said that!”

  • Profile image for sochat

    by sochat

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 6:00PM

    “Let them eat cake.”

  • Profile image for Neathboy234

    by Neathboy234

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 11:35AM

    “Just found out the In fact, 68.6% of all working age adults are now in employment in Wales, which is the same proportion as when the UK economy first went into recession back in the third quarter of 2008. So things are no worse.,”

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