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South Wales Evening Post

YOUR report headlined Ex-firefighter's role contained one inaccuracy (Post, December 12).

This was not the fault of the Post, it was a statement given by a Swansea Council spokesman who was quoted as saying: "This is the first time that political alliances have been formed on the fire authority".

This was in relation to Swansea Council's leader David Phillips using minor legal regulations to overrule an Act of Parliament and to deny Gordon Walker, an independent, his rightful place on the fire authority.

Recent Freedom of Information questions to the fire authority have revealed there have been political alliances and political groups on our fire authority since the old West Glamorgan days.

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It is interesting to note that all political parties, barring Labour, chose to form a rainbow alliance to work for the good of the authority and the people, whereas Labour form a group whose only interest seems to be the Labour Party.

The Labour group tried to recruit Gordon Walker into its camp and failed, as Gordon wanted to work for the good of the people and not their party.

Swansea Labour councillors have sought to deny this, but the Labour councillors at Neath Port Talbot have confirmed in writing that Labour tried to recruit Gordon. Now David Phillips will not allow any Swansea councillor to attend the fire authority unless they sign a legal agreement with him. And now Richard Lewis has signed this, he cannot join the alliance. The fire authority has had legal counsel from a QC and deputy High Court judge whose opinion is that David Phillips's actions are contrary to the relevant Acts of Parliament. The people of Swansea deserve better and need someone of Gordon Walker's experience.

F M Thumwood

Clydach, Swansea

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    by Neathboy234

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 12:18PM

    “notowind i was wondering have you been in the army or perhaps one of the other services by any chance, they do a lot of shouting don't they”

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    by Neathboy234

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 11:53AM

    “notowind we're all going to be deaf with your shouting. BTW i don't read what you have to say, and until you stop shouting this will continue to be the case. Keep it down son.”

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    by notowind

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 11:38AM

    “Neath Boy,
    You need to learn some elementary physics........ONE CANNOT SHOUT IN PRINT BECAUSE THE PRINTED WORD DOES NOT EMIT SOUND !! HAVE YOU GOT IT ?

    If you CAN hear VOICES when you read capitals......you DESPERATELY need to see a psychiatrist.You can get some very good effective treatment these days. Good luck with it !!!
    They'll have you back to normality and full sanity within a year.

    Now, if you want to hear REAL NOISES, just go on to Mynydd y Betws [ Rhydaman] ; Rhiwfawr [Pontardawe] ; Mynydd y Gwair, [Clydach ] Mynydd Marchywel [Rhos , Pontardawe], when all of the WIND MONSTERS are turning......and you will hear a REAL RACKET FROM WITHIN A MILE !! "THUMP !! THUMP ! THUMP !! ....as the wind generators ....UP TO 475 FEET HIGH.........churn out their PALTRY INTERMITTENT electricity......FOR ENGLAND !!!

    If you want REAL PEACE AND QUIET......go and stand in the middle of the WIND-TURBINE=FREE 75 square mile Badminton Estate IN THE COTSWOLDS, OWNED BY THE DUKE OF BEAUFORT WHO IS PUTTING HIS 475 FT MONSTERS ON MYNYDD Y GWAIR !!

    HE WON'T HAVE ANY AT HOME , OF COURSE !!
    WHY SHOULD HE WHILST THERE ARE MUGS LIVING IN WALES???

    So you won't hear ANYTHING on his Estate , apart from gentle babbling brooks.................AND THE RUSTLING OF THICK WADS OF CRISPY £50 NOTES COLLECTED VIA THE HILLS OF SWANSEA AND NEATH ........ACCOMPANIED BY LAUGHTER AND THE CHINKING OF CHAMPAGNE GLASSES , AS THE DUKE REGALES HIS ARISTOCRATIC MULTI-MILLIONAIRE FRIENDS WITH HILARIOUS TALES OF "STUPID SWANSEA JACKS AND INNUMERATE WINDIES FROM NEATH " WHO HAVE HANDED HIM MILLIONS OF POUNDS IN WIND SUBSIDIES ON A SILVER PLATTER !!

    OH ! HOW THEY WILL LAUGH .........LONG AND LOUD !!!


    Of course, you CANNOT ANSWER SIMPLE WIND ENERGY AND WELSH ELECTRICITY STATISTICS.......SO YOU SIMPLY HOME IN ON LITTLE CAPITAL LETTERS !!

    NEVER MIND!! YOU COULD BE BETTER IN A YEAR......GOOD LUCK WITH THE TREATMENT !!

    ARE THOSE EAR-PLUGS PAINFUL , BY THE WAY ????”

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    by Neathboy234

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 9:09AM

    “notowind isn't it against the law to shout at 3 o'clock in the morning lol”

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    by notowind

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 3:25AM

    “TYPO IN LAST ENTRY ......... SHOULD BE "PUT THE UK"...not "OUT THE UK " O AND P ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.”

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    by notowind

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 3:22AM

    “Neathboy234,
    [1] You don't have a clue !!
    [2] I have no allegiance to ANY political party. I am a floating voter who votes for the person with the BEST POLICIES....IF I THINK HE/SHE IS GENUINE !!
    [3] I have NEVER VOTED TORY OR LABOUR IN MY LIFE!! Tories would never get anywhere in my county, anyway.
    At various times in my life, I have voted for Plaid Cymru, Lib Dem and Independent candidates........DEPENDING ON THE CANDIDATES AND THEIR POLICIES!
    SOME Independents are genuinely independent....others are false people with hidden agendas.

    HOWEVER, THE LABOUR PARTY........SO-CALLED SOCIALISTS........IS FULL OF FALSE , HYPOCRITICAL PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE MONEY-GRABBING THAN ANY CAPITALIST !!

    AT NATIONAL LEVEL, LABOUR HAS OUT THE UK........WHICH MEANS ITS PEOPLE......UP TO THEIR NECKS IN DEBT.......BECAUSE LABOUR PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT RUNNING A BUSINESS !!

    ANY FOOL CAN SPEND MONEY.......ESPECIALLY PUBLIC MONEY THAT IS NOT THEIRS......AND LABOUR POLITICIANS GENERALLY ARE EXPERT AT DOING THAT !!

    IF LABOUR IN SWANSEA ARE SO DAMN CLEVER.......HOW IS IT THAT A STRANGER WILL TELL YOU THAT ENTERING SWANSEA BY TRAIN IS LIKE ENTERING THE THIRD WORLD? THERE HAS BEEN THICK RUBBISH FESTOONING BOTH SIDES OF THE RAILWAY TRACKS.......BOTH SIDES OF SWANSEA CENTRAL STATION........FOR DECADES......NOT JUST WEEKS !! IT GOES ON FOR MILES.......AND NO-ONE IN SWANSEA EVEN MENTIONS IT ...OR DOES ANYTHING TO REMOVE IT !!
    WHAT A PICTURE YOU GIVE TO THE WORLD !! INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLERS ARE PASSING THROUGH SWANSEA ON THEIR WAY TO PEMBROKESHIRE AND IRELAND . ALL THEY SEE AS THEY PASS THROUGH SWANSEA IS THICK RUBBISH FROM A DON'T CARE CITY . GARAGES IN LANDORE ARE NOT EVEN STOPPED FROM DUMPING OLD TYRES AND RUBBISH......BEHIND THEIR BUILDINGS, BUT IN FULL VIEW OF ALL TRAIN PASSENGERS !!

    THEY MAY NOT BE STOPPING......BUT PASSING THROUGH THE CITY FOR THE FIRST TIME !! WHAT DO THEY SEE UNDER THEIR NOSES ???????? MILES AND MILES OF THICK RUBBISH.......THEIR ONLY........AND ABIDING......VIEW OF SWANSEA !!

    YET YOU HAVE LABOUR COUNCILLORS IN SWANSEA.......WHO DON'T EVEN SEE IT !!
    THEY HAVE NEVER REMARKED ON IT OR DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT........EVER !!!!!!!!!

    GO INTO ENGLISH CITIES....YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THE RUBBISH YOU SEE IN SWANSEA !!

    GO INTO PADDINGTON........YOU WON'T SEE THE RUBBISH YOU SEE AROUND SWANSEA.......AND PADDINGTON IS MUCH BIGGER AND FAR BUSIER.

    YOU HAVE DOZENS OF LABOUR COUNCILLORS......AND YOU HAVE HAD THEM FOR DECADES[NOT ALL THE SAME ONES].THEY DON'T EVEN SEE WHAT STRANGERS SEE .....THE "WELCOMING" RUBBISH OF SWANSEA !!

    WHY DON'T THEY TACKLE RAILTRACK ? DO THEY HAVE TO BE TOLD TO DO THAT SIMPLE ACT !!??

    AND BENNY......NO-ONE CAN SHOUT IN PRINT !! IMPOSSIBLE !!......SO THE CAPITALS ARE FOR THE MYOPIC LABOUR SUPPORTERS OF SWANSEA !! THEY ARE ABOUT 2 MILLIMETRES HIGH........BUT SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN LOWER CASE !! HOW UPSETTING THESE HUGE LETTERS ARE TO PETTY PEOPLE AND THE BENNY HILLS OF THIS WORLD ??!!

    AREN'T THEY AWFUL ????

    DID THE PETTY COMPLAINERS REGARDING 2 MM LETTERS EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GIGANTIC 475 FEET HIGH WIND TURBINES THAT ARE ABOUT TO WRECK THE SKYLINES OF SWANSEA ??

    OF COURSE NOT !! THEY LIVE IN A PETTY WORLD.......WITH NO SENSE OF PROPORTION !!

    THEY CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2 MILLIMETRES AND 475 FEET !!

    2 MM LETTERS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN 475 FT WIND TURBINES........SUBSIDISED...OF COURSE..... BY THE VERY POOREST OF SWANSEA TO FILL THE POCKETS OF THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE DUKE OF BEAUFORT .
    NOW WHAT PARTY WOULD HE BE VOTING FOR, CLEVER DICK FROM NEATH ??

    BY THE WAY......THOSE TURBINES WILL BE ALMOST THE HEIGHT OF KILVEY HILL.......BUT THEY WILL BE ON TOP OF MYNYDD Y GWAIR........SO HOW ARE AIR AMBULANCES AND POLICE HELICOPTERS GOING TO FLY SAFELY IN THICKLY DESCENDING MIST ACROSS A HILL JUST ABOVE MORRISTON HOSPITAL?
    PEOPLE IN SWANSEA AND DISTRICT NEED TO GET A FEW PRIORITIES RIGHT !”

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    by Neathboy234

    Tuesday, February 12 2013, 7:11PM

    “bennyhill4 and to think notowind complains about the noise that wind turbines make lol. I feel def just looking at his posts”

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    by bennyhill4

    Tuesday, February 12 2013, 5:45PM

    “Notowind, You must be right because you put it all in capital letters!!!!!!!!! After a rant like that you should sit down and take deep breaths. Now to the real issue, the only reason Gordon Walker is miffed is because he no longer gets his nice little pay packet for being on the authority. You say he is a union man through and through yet he is in league with the snob Wendy Fitzpatrick”

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    by Neathboy234

    Tuesday, February 12 2013, 10:10AM

    “el1szabeth there are many so called independent councilors here in Wales, and many of us know exactly what these people stand for. I like it better when someone stands up for what he actually is and doesn't try to hide behind a mask”

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    by el1szabeth

    Tuesday, February 12 2013, 10:06AM

    “Re; Rivergirl - I agree with you.

    Councillor Gordon Walker was the wrong man for the job on two fronts. The first being he is a "union" man through and through and because the fire authority and the fire brigade UNION have two different agendas his appointment would have, in my opinion, caused chaos for the FA itself. The second reason being at the first meeting he attended he signed up to a rainbow alliance of POLITICAL parties in an attempt to gain overall control of the fire authority. Who needs a man like this??
    Perhaps the people who elected Councillor Walker as an INDEPENDENT should be aware that he hardly opens his mouth at council meetings because his LEADER Councillor Fitzgerald does all the talking for the FAKE Independents on Swansea Council.
    It is also politically naive of Mr Thurnwood to state that Councillor Walker should be allowed to take up his "rightful place on the fire authority. The position is a gift not a right.
    Councillor Phillip's should be applauded for standing firm on this issue.”

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