No cost to taxpayer for turbine escorts

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Saturday, December 01, 2012
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South Wales Evening Post

THE taxpayer will not be asked to foot the bill for police escorts in transporting wind turbines up the Swansea Valley, an Assembly Member has said.

Regional AM Suzy Davies says she has received assurances that taxpayers will not be footing the bill for the police escorting the wind turbines being taken to the site of the Mynydd y Betws wind farm above Pontardawe.

Mrs Davies, who wrote to South Wales Police over the matter, said: "It is important that the cost of policing these very difficult loads does not fall upon the council taxpayers of South Wales, who fund policing through the precept.

"I am glad that the cost will fall back upon the developer via the haulage contractor and that is only right and proper. This is a commercial venture.

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"I am also pleased that it has gone so well so far. I know many residents were filled with apprehension about possible damage being done by these large loads, but I think that the way in which the police have marshalled the loads has gone a long way to alleviating these concerns."

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  • Profile image for Dooyah

    by Dooyah

    Tuesday, December 11 2012, 11:41AM

    “Filoscratcher
    # What a fool believes
    # He sees
    # No wise man has the power
    # To reason away
    - Kenny Loggins, Michael McDonald”

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    by Philosoraptor

    Tuesday, December 11 2012, 10:28AM

    “Dooyah, now you are talking semantics. You knew exactly what I was writing about, you know exactly why the AM was really saying this and you knew that the entire reason for this article was a veiled criticism from the AM about the whole wind turbine project.

    As I said, grow up.”

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    by Dooyah

    Monday, December 10 2012, 9:55PM

    “Philosorupture
    Please read the article above.
    Note that the news item does not indicate anything for or against wind turbines.
    Note that the piece has nothing to do with the quality or durability of road surfaces.
    Note that in my post of Saturday, December 1 2012, 8:35PM, I spell out to the previous poster why an AM has responded to a concern expressed.
    Thank you for your interest.”

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    by Philosoraptor

    Monday, December 10 2012, 7:48PM

    “Grow up Dooyah. If you were claiming that these vehicles damaged the road then it was a pathetic and uneducated attempt at stopping the project from happening, if not then your childish comment is hardly worth the little effort it took me to write this.”

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    by Dooyah

    Monday, December 10 2012, 10:26AM

    “Many thanks for supplying details of your hobby.
    Do you swap photos of roads with other road spotters?
    I've got pictures of NASA Space Shuttle 'Atlantis' on its transportation rig from hangar to launch pad. The road surface is there in all of its glory.
    Are there any Road Spotter DVDs for sale?”

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    by Philosoraptor

    Monday, December 10 2012, 9:53AM

    “*Southern USA”

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    by Philosoraptor

    Monday, December 10 2012, 9:53AM

    “I am not the strongest proponent for wind turbines, I would prefer solar glass windows being used on office buildings and each house having it's own solar panels. The wear and tear is specifically caused by the freezing and thawing in winter, and then those cracks gradually get bigger throughout the rest of the year. The winter is the seed of the issue.

    In countries with a climate like Southern America, where their roads (not Highways) experience far larger, heavier and more traffic throughput, the roads do not suffer from wear and tear and the same scale as more Northern climates have to endure. Due to the lack of continual freezing and thawing they can use cheaper and less resilient substance for their tarmac and yet the roads remain in great condition for years.

    There is a solution here but it comes at a super massive cost, motorway grade tarmac is very expensive and even in an economic boom we would be very pressed to be able to afford such an upgrade to our road network for Wales alone, let alone the far more vast network across the UK.

    But anyhow, the key to stopping roads degrading begins and almost solely relies on stopping the micro cracks appear during the winter season. We are nowhere near solving that issue with a cost efficient solution. :(”

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    by Neathboy234

    Friday, December 07 2012, 11:08AM

    “Philosoraptor and i guess with climate change the weather is only going to get worse. lets get these wind turbines up and running ASAP.

    BTW good bit of info there, well done”

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    by Philosoraptor

    Friday, December 07 2012, 10:52AM

    “John Davies, there is no accelerated wear and tear. The roads are built to easily withstand the large vehicles passing through carrying this equipment.

    Want to know what is by far the biggest contributor to wear and tear of roads? Weather. Fact. Supported by science. See laws of physics for proof, Google is a big place with lots of relevant information... I am sure you can find it for yourself with little difficulty.”

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    by johndavies

    Wednesday, December 05 2012, 7:44PM

    “The accelerated wear /damage to roads from these oversize loads is paid for by Joe public”

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