Thirty eight hospitalised as measles cases in Swansea outbreak reaches 252

“Quote: Should not be given to those who have had a confirmed anaphylactic reaction to neomycin or gelatin.

Here we go: in other words there is an antibiotic component to the vaccine which IS NOT listed in the above content list. And gelatin. Well,well. I haven't got a problem with gelatin, but vegans might have. Hence it should be listed!”

“No, that is only a list of virus strains used for the vaccine NOT a complete list of ingredients.

Again: A comment on what the vaccine DOESN'T contain is not a list of additives it DOES actually contain!”

“Never mind patients rights, what about children's rights? What justification is there for any adult to stop their child from being immunised? We have 252 cases of measles in this locality. That 252 instances of parents behaving in a way that should be viewed as wilful neglect.”

“I strongly suspect that PJL1967 has a search engine rather than any medical qualification. Having said that, his original query was why there is not a single jab available. I suspect the reason is that it is too expensive to have both single and MMR jabs as standard provision. I can also imagine the number of un-used single jabs that will eventually be binned as they reach expiry date.

I don't have any medical training, but speaking as an NHS user I want effective treatments provided at reasonable cost rather than health care regarded as some sort of consumer choice.”

“ABM_Health,

Rubbish! Just because there is no "data" or peer reviewed studies in medical journals, who are sponsored by pharma companies, including vaccine the manufacturers themselves..., doesn't mean there is no link. People with a conflict of interest patently do not want there to be any "data" so obviously they do not seek any, hence there is no "data". And as they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The lack of "data" is not evidence that the MMR don't cause autism!

As I wrote earlier, the fact that the MMR vaccine can cause autism has been proven objectively in the law courts!”

“Julesbreadbox – the content of MMR jabs is available on the internet for anyone to look at. Here is a link to one http://tinyurl.com/bybbfsq

PJL1967 – the link is to the measles information put out by Public Health Wales http://tinyurl.com/bbkstme This is where all the stats are recorded and available for the public to view.

There is a lot out there about the Autism link. For example, The Autism Science Foundation says in there article about vaccines causing autism: "While there are still a handful of parents who, in almost a religious way, cling to the notion that vaccines cause autism, the vast majority of parents and scientists have accepted what the data clearly show. There is no data to support an autism vaccine link. There never has been. Vaccines don't cause autism." http://tinyurl.com/y8paspb”

“In addition to last posting:
Can't you stop going on about this MMR/autism rubbish?
Don't you realize that there are other, more important issues than that?

I have emphasized it before, and-since you don't seem to understand-will say it again:
I AM NOT INTO MMR/AUTISM CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!!

I simply want a contents list to form my own picture.

This is like living in the dark ages of socialism.”

“No country in the world recommends MMR and then offers parents a choice of having single vaccines instead. Every independent expert group around the world (including the World Health Organization http://tinyurl.com/3tx9d) supports the use of MMR, and none support the use of single vaccines."

That is not true.
Get your facts right!
"Independent" expert groups tend to be sponsored by pharma companies,anyway.”

“ABM_Health,

The link you provided me doesn't work. Saying, laboratory confirmed and *probable* cases of measles" means very little if, for example, only 1% of case are actually laboratory confirmed..

As for the MMR causing autism, maybe you are unaware that other countries have compensated families of children whose Autism was caused by the MMR.

Maybe you are also unaware that the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] previously stated publicly to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson:

"We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."

..and that even the President of Merck's Vaccines Division, Julie Gerberding confirmed to CBS News when she was Director of the US Centres for Disease Control that:

"if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism."

Yet, children are not screened for mitochondrial dysfunction before they are given the MMR...

The fact of the matter is autistic conditions can result from acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following MMR vaccination as held by the US Federal Court in the case of Bailey Banks.

In his conclusion, US Federal Court Special Master Abell ruled that Petitioners had proven that the MMR had directly caused a brain inflammation illness called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) which, in turn, had caused the autism spectrum disorder PDD-NOS in the child:

"The Court found that Bailey's ADEM was both caused-in-fact and proximately caused by his vaccination. It is well-understood that the vaccination at issue can cause ADEM, and the Court found, based upon a full reading and hearing of the pertinent facts in this case, that it did actually cause the ADEM. Furthermore, Bailey's ADEM was severe enough to cause lasting, residual damage, and retarded his developmental progress, which fits under the generalized heading of Pervasive Developmental Delay, or PDD [an autism spectrum disorder]. The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine, and that this chain of causation was… a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to Pervasive Developmental Delay." - [Banks v. HHS (Case 02-0738V, 2007 U.S. Claims LEXIS 254, July 20, 2007)].

I suggests it is the failure in the UK to compensate those affected and the contempt people feel they are being treated with by the continued insistence in the UK that the MMR is 100% safe, when there is clear evidence to the contrary, which leads to mistrust of those advocating the MMR vaccine. And, may I say, persistently repeating the rhetoric about Andrew Wakfield, as if it is evidence of the MMR alleged safety, merely reinforces that mistrust.

Denying any link of autism to the MMR is clearly not only wrong, it is counterproductive to those seeking to win the trust of the public.

People aren't stupid, they wont all be steered like sheep. Neither are they able to make informed decisions about what is best for their children if they are being denied all the facts.

Parents deserve better, tell them the truth and they may respect and therefore trust you more.”

“For anyone reading this who is undecided about the their child having the MMR vaccination there is a lot of information on the NHS Choices website http://tinyurl.com/b87kr7n The University of Oxford also has information on it as part of their Vaccine Knowledge project http://tinyurl.com/b2ybgux Or please talk to your GP or health visitor.

As we have mentioned before, the most effective way to protect against measles is to have x2 MMR vaccinations. One dose of the MMR vaccination is 90% effective against measles and after two doses 99% effective.

PJL1967 - on the 28th February 2013 we were provided with the following details by Public Health Wales who are the health body that monitor and deal with outbreaks of this kind http://tinyurl.com/a2f5s65 They said of the laboratory confirmed and probable cases of measles reported in Mid and West Wales since the 1 November 2012 89% have no history of MMR vaccination. 3% say they have had two doses of MMR and 8% say they have had one dose of MMR. However, we have yet to confirm if these patients did have one or two doses as it needs to be verified by medical records.

The so called 'research'' over MMR/autism has been completely and utterly discredited, as has the man behind it. It completely failed the acid test of all scientific research - other research programmes duplicating the results. Many tried, over a period of several years, but none ever did. No study has found a link between the MMR vaccine and autism or bowel disease.

The doctor at the centre of this so-called 'research', Andrew Wakefield was also discredited. The General Medical Council found three dozen charges against him proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research. Dr Andrew Wakefield was struck off.

There is a page on Andrew Wakefield and his MMR 'research' on Wikipedia if anyone wants to read about this in more detail: http://tinyurl.com/6ceoex"

NHS Choices explains why the NHS doesn't recommend single vaccines - there is no evidence to support the use of single vaccines or to suggest that they are "safer" than MMR. Having single vaccines puts your child at risk of catching measles, mumps or rubella in the time in between the vaccines.

No country in the world recommends MMR and then offers parents a choice of having single vaccines instead. Every independent expert group around the world (including the World Health Organization http://tinyurl.com/3tx9d) supports the use of MMR, and none support the use of single vaccines.”