Thailand trickster and school teacher in court on charges relating to benefit fraud

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Thursday, March 19, 2009
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A MAN who claimed more than £11,000 in benefits while living in Thailand for 18 months was helped by his teacher mother, a court has heard.

Thomas Clancy, aged 31, even got married while living overseas.

His mother Ellen Lloyd, aged 56, a teacher at Pontybrenin primary in Gorseinon, would fill in his claim forms and send them to him to sign.

Both admitted three charges relating to benefit fraud at Swansea Magistrates’ Court.

John Allchurch, prosecuting on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions and Swansea Council, said Clancy, of Landore Drive, Loughor, moved to Thailand in August 2005 and did not return until February 2007.

He said Clancy had been claiming income support since October 1996, severe disablement allowance since May 1997, and housing and council tax benefits since August 2000.

In relation to those benefits, he failed to inform the authorities of a change in his circumstances, namely that he had left the UK and was living in Thailand.

Clancy admitted three such offences and his mother admitted three counts of failing to ensure he notified a change of circumstances.

Mr Allchurch said benefits were paid into Lloyd’s account and she transferred those moneys to her son’s bank account in Thailand. Council tax and housing benefit review forms were sent out in relation to those benefits.

She sent him those forms with the boxes already filled in by her ready for him to sign.

When interviewed by investigators Clancy said there were many people living in Thailand who were claiming benefits.

The court was told the offences had resulted in an overpayment of £11,268 in benefits. All that money has since been repaid.

Solicitor Simon Howell, representing them both, said Lloyd, of Pentre Niklaus Village, Llanelli, had been married with three sons aged seven, four and three when her husband left her.

In 1995 her eldest son, James, died during an asthma attack. His death left Thomas devastated. He had already been affected by his parents’ marriage breakdown.

“He went completely off the rails into a world of drug and alcohol addiction and mental illness,” said Mr Howell.

He went through a period of self-harming, criminal offending, threats of suicide and temper tantrums resulting in him smashing up cars, TV sets and phones.

Twice he went into rehab and for a time he was an in-patient at Cefn Coed Hospital.

“She was at her wits’ end,” Mr Howells said of Lloyd.

“She is a loving mother who had already lost one son and she had a desperate fear she would lose another. She did everything in her power to assist and support her son.”

Lloyd bought a chalet in Limeslade as a safe place for him to live away from others with a similar self-destructive lifestyle.

At that time he was making genuine claims for benefits.

Following successful rehab in August 2005, he went to stay with a friend in Thailand. His mother supported him. He had come off alcohol and drugs and by going to Thailand he would be well away from former associates.

The housing benefit paid in relation to the chalet was used to fund the mortgage. Lloyd had been determined he should have a safe house to return to. Mr Howells said of the offending: “She really just closed herself to the seriousness of the situation she was in and the potential consequences of that.”

He said Clancy, who got married in Thailand, returned to Wales in January 2007. He worked for a time on a pipeline project before becoming a minibus driver.

However, on March 6 of this year, he was convicted of possessing ecstasy, Valium and amphetamine, for which he was fined £200.

Mr Howells said he relapsed last December and began taking drugs again. However, he is now drug-free again.

The two-year benefit fraud investigation has taken it’s toll on Lloyd’s health, and she is off work ill.

“This is a woman who is  highly regarded by many people and it is really very sad to see her before the court,” said Mr Howells.

Lloyd was fined £750 and Clancy was made subject to 12 months’ supervision during which time he will have the support of local drugs agencies. Both will have to pay £75 costs.

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    by Mother, Gorseinon

    Friday, March 20 2009, 8:43PM

    “I agree with Andrew, Swansea & A Mum, Gorseinon. Mrs Lloyd is a wonderful, caring and respected teacher. I hope to see her back teaching at Pontybrenin soon.
    'Let he who hath no sin cast the first stone'.”

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    by Jim, Gorseinon

    Friday, March 20 2009, 5:06PM

    “So if your white it's alright is it, Rachel from Cwmbwrla?”

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    by A mum, Gorseinon

    Friday, March 20 2009, 2:48PM

    “I agree with Andrew that we are all too quick to jump to conclusions. Mrs Lloyd is a wonderful teacher and a very loving mum. She made a big mistake, as alot of people do, and now fully regrets her actions. All the money has been repaid and Mrs Lloyd is very remorsful. I wish you a speedy recovery, and hope to see you back at school soon x”

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    by Andrew, Swansea

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 4:11PM

    “It's very easy to jump to conclusions. Ask yourself, "How often do I as a parent help out my own children in any circumstances". Sounds like the mother has been a victim of her son's greed and deceit.”

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    by Helen, Swansea

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 3:56PM

    “There is no excuse for this, that teacher must have known what she was doing was against the law, aren't teachers supposed to be intelligent?”

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    by Keith, Swansea

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 3:52PM

    “This would'nt have happened if we have an immigration proceedure that records when you leave the country. Your passport should be linked to your NI number so when you leave the UK your benefits are stopped. An ID card system would do much the same. if introduced I reckon the numbers of sun loving criminals claiming Income Support living it up at OUR expense in Goa, Pakistan, Thailand and most of Southern Spain would soon come home. That £11,000 could have paid for a few kidney machines. Nothing but criminals.”

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    by Rachel, Cwmbwrla

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 3:11PM

    “Although it is legal, think of the many immigrants who are able to claim benefits for their children who (like this man) don't even live in the UK.... How is this fair?”

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    by Heather, Swansea

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 2:42PM

    “Dave in Neath.
    Don't jump to conclusions. Read the story correctly, the paragraph you are looking for is there..
    ''The court was told the offences had resulted in an overpayment of £11,268 in benefits. All that money has since been repaid.''”

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    by HR.Jones, Swansea

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 2:00PM

    “Strange, It's always after they've been caught these people are full of remorse and regret... Funny that in it ? I know many people who have been affected by tragedy, illness, addiction but none of these have turned to fraud and crime..... Greed pure greed”

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    by Dave, Neath

    Thursday, March 19 2009, 12:44PM

    “What about the 11,000 they stole?
    Surley they should be made to pay this back, or is it the honest Taxpayer who once again has to foot the bill!”

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