Swansea swimming club members devastated at merger

“Dear Mr Nemesis shark, the time for presenting facts has passed as the club has been disbanded by Swim Wales at a time when the clubs remaining committee members and shadow committee needed their support. One committee member did seem to remember this was about children and continued to support Swansea Sharks swimmers, which I have thanked him for.

I am not seeking an opportunity for you to advise me simply posting an opinion which differs from yours. I hope all the children who have had the opportunity to learn to swim and compete with Sharks continue to develop to their full potential unfortunately with different clubs.”

“Here's a fact for you, swim Wales have used the incident you instigated as an excuse to close the club! Fact.”

“Clearly the facts are unimportant in all of this. If people wish to bury their heads in the sand then so be it. Little wonder the club is where it is and another opportunity missed.”

“The decision by Swim Wales to disband Swansea Sharks is a sad loss to all members.
My main gripe here is that my right to choose where my children swim has been taken away from us. I was impressed by the knowledge, passion and commitment shown by the National Performance Director however if choice were available my children would choose to stay with the club they have grown up with. We have been given no reason for the disbandment and have may unanswered questions.
Up until the incident of December 10th the Sharks was a thriving and financially viable club. A competitive club with a social background, that offered great value for money in a nurturing and inclusive environment. The problems that led to the clubs demise lie at the door of not the parents that requested information and then when non was forthcoming and EGM, but quite frankly at the door of the man who could not accept that HIS vision for the club was not shared by the Head Coach. A fact that Sharksnemesis either through pure arrogance or self denial cannot accept.
If both parties had after the incident had behaved in a professional manner and steered clear of contact with the Committee, enabling them to conduct their investigation impartially and without impediment then perhaps this matter would have been resolved. Unfortunately only 1 party in my humble opinion reacted in the correct manner.
Trying to apportion blame to parents is at best immature and at worst deliberately deceitful. The bottom line here is the loss of a club that has paid an integral part in the swimming development of many children past and present. The club was always for and about the children ALL the children. That is the reason parents were unhappy, so perhaps instead of berating people for trying to speak out for their children Sharksnemisis should take his own advice and try some introspection.”

“How on earth they can use the words exciting times ahead is beyond me. They haven't had to explain to their children who have been left crying and distraught by what I can only describe as a ludicrous decision by swim Wales. Why close a very successful, affordable, non elitist club is beyond me. I don't care what they say but they had a hidden agenda from the start and the children who swim for Swansea sharks were certainly not their priority.”

“How on earth they can use the words exciting times ahead is beyond me. They haven't had to explain to their children who have been left crying and distraught by what I can only describe as a ludicrous decision by swim Wales. Why close a very successful, affordable, non elitist club is beyond me. I don't care what they say but they had a hidden agenda from the start and the children who swim for Swansea sharks were certainly not their priority.”

“Yes, I am angry, due to the actions of a few my children have been upset at this whole sorry episode, but unlike some I can vent it in an adult manner and don't have to seek professional help.

BTW, getting my name wrong that's clever,you must think your really funny! I bet you feel really proud of yourself for being so smart. This is the same immature attitude that has caused this carnage in the first place.

Once again these so called secret facts. Pathetic.”

“In respect of JJ Gates. Maybe the facts would help here to. If you would like to present your 'facts' I would be more than happy to advise.

You will also notice that my thread described the word 'power' in inversions. This means there is no real power only others perception that there was, for which they coveted. Hope that clarifies that.

Sorry JJ maybe you are misconstruing honest and blunt presentation of some facts in my threads as aggression.”

“From several of the comments made by mr notsolucky it would appear that getting angry has obscured his sense of judgement and perspective. Please note, Swim Wales are offering anger management classes at the moment. Maybe he could be a bit more reflective and think who led us and the club like lemmings to the edge of the cliff and made it very easy for anyone to throw the club off.

In regards of comments about my apparent self interest and my lack of effort in saving the club, that quite frankly is pathetic and offensive - again some knowledge of the facts would help you here and if he and others had been provided with the truth instead of believing a form of events provided by third parties then he may from day one have had a very different perspective.

Ask these questions. Did anyone ask me to help them? Was I able to help them? Just to begin with.

In terms of me scuttling off and your own efforts. Your own efforts are very much too little and significantly too late, sorry, but that is self-evident from events and again instead of looking to others to blame, look a little closer and maybe you can analyse unfolding events on a day-by-day basis and ask how did this happen? how and why did that happen. Why did we do this and that and on what factual basis? Some introspection would do some good I think. Your comments are highly insulting wrt me scuttling off. I like you made a choice for my child. Possibly I have made the right choice and maybe others the wrong choice, only time will tell.

You have made many comments in your threads here that are wholly incorrect or only partly or contextually true. The same could be said of many other comments. Knowing the facys I am sure you will agree is an essential starting point in any analysis. If you would like to present your version of the facts as you understand them, starting from Dec 10th to closure of the Sharks then I would be more than happy to correct any discrepancies so that you can gain a clear and accurate picture of events over a long period of time and the difficulties and pressures the club had been put under. Hopefully that would lead you and others to a clear understanding of how the club ended up in this situation. I hope you would agree that this would be more productive than wasted words.”

“From the vast majority of comments being made on here by 'notsolucky' possibly your anger should be directed elsewhere, maybe the person or persons that led you like a leming and the club o the edge of the cliff where it was very easy for anyone that had the desire to throw it off. A little introspection would not go amiss.

In response to your comment relating to my apparent lack of effort in saving the club, possibly if you knew the facts, which you clearly do not you would have a much better”