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Swansea's second gypsy sites short-list goes online — public to give views

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Friday, December 14, 2012
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South Wales Evening Post

EVERYTHING Swansea Council has discussed about creating a second gypsy traveller site goes online today

All documents from the process to whittle 1,006 sites down to a shortlist of five will be available to the public over the next three months.

  1. Llansamlet resident Tom Jenkins with fellow protesters outside County Hall against a second permanent traveller site

    Llansamlet resident Tom Jenkins with fellow protesters outside County Hall against a second permanent traveller site

The final five shortlisted are identical to a list revealed in the Evening Post in April this year.

Council leader David Phillips said: "The council wants the public to play a full part in this process and people will have until the end of March to give us their views."

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The publication of the documents follows an internal and external review of the process through which a short-list was created. Councillors were briefed last night and as they entered the Civic Centre they were greeted by campaigners protesting against a second site in Llansamlet.

Separate legal reviews of claims that an agreement was made by the old West Glamorgan County Council to not place a second site in Llansamlet were carried out by the council's monitoring officer and one of the UK's leading barristers in constitutional matters. They concluded no such agreement had taken place.

Mr Phillips added: "The council is committed to making this an open and transparent process.

"People will be able to see the details of all 1,006 sites, the criteria used to assess each site and how those sites were filtered down to 19 and then five.

"The public have access to the documents so that they play a full part in the process.

"No decisions have been made on a second site and it is vital that people give us their views so that we can take them into account during the next stage of the process to identify a second permanent site."

People can give feedback online. There will be computer access at the authority's libraries and feedback forms for residents. Anyone without computer access can view hard copies and fill out consultation forms in the Civic Centre between January 21 and 25.

www.swansea.gov.uk/sgts

THE five sites are:

1. Former Greyhound

Stadium (Cockett)

2. Rear of Parc Melyn

Mynach (Gorseinon)

3. Proposed Cemetery

(Gorseinon)

4. Swansea Vale

(Llansamlet)

5. Milford Way

(Penderry)

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  • Profile image for Neathboy234

    by Neathboy234

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 11:21PM

    “trailblazer who do u want to listen to u. BTW there is no god, unless u can prove otherwise. lol lol”

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    by KP287

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 10:42PM

    “If the site for these travellers does go to Llansamlet, that would be three sites. This is totally unacceptable and a disgracefull decision by a council voted in because they said they would listen and work for the people of Swansea. They contribute nothing to society and live through theft and intimidation. The park and ride site, with only permission (because of that idiot Hague) for one or two families, looks like a sh#@ hole.”

  • Profile image for trailblazer

    by trailblazer

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 9:11PM

    “And my comments have been deleted from Saturday from this site. says it all. we are even being watched on here!”

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    by trailblazer

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 9:08PM

    “as i have said until I am blue in the face, this will be a disaster if this happens. For God's sake will no-one listen.”

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    by Eric_Pode

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 4:11PM

    “2013 will be the Year of the Bailiff & Eviction Notice.
    CCS will need to tread carefully irrespective of any good intentions.”

  • Profile image for JohnSW4

    by JohnSW4

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 12:18PM

    “by GSVale
    Your observations are so right that traveler site was and should go there after all they have always lived in and around Llansamlet! Besides after listening to the Labour controlled committee LN2TS even a ex labour MP! Its just a damage limitation for the Labour council and the labour party after all they did inherit this mess from the most useless Liberal coalition.”

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    by GSVale

    Saturday, December 15 2012, 11:23PM

    “Are the council still pretending they have not made their decision lol the site will be in Swansea Vale/Llansamlet. Just go and have a look at Gwernllwynchwyth Road it's already got road cones on it ready to start and anyone who travels the spine road to and from Swansea Vale to Jnct 44 of the M4 will have noticed the surveyors busy at work with vans and Theodolites scattered all around.

    I was walking out the bottom entrance to Heol Las Park last week when a guy parked in the little layby asked me if I knew where the new Gypsy site was getting built as he had been sent out to see if they needed a wheel wash for the lorries that were going to be bringing all the hardcore. Now two and two don't always add up, but in this case I think they make four lol”

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    by seasolder

    Saturday, December 15 2012, 1:31PM

    “Let,all our councillors start earning their salaries & allowances, by giving a "thumbs down" to an additional travellers site within the bounderies of Swansea City.
    We have already seen what a disgusting mess these travellers have caused, they just cannot be trusted to treat our city with any respect.
    This is now one reason why it was a big mistake to have joint, this so called European alliance.”

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    by Dooyah

    Saturday, December 15 2012, 1:06PM

    “Philos
    No matter what you write, Councils are obliged to provide sites for travellers.
    As I posted before, the only way to change the obligation is to repeal the legislation.”

  • Profile image for Nubbo

    by Nubbo

    Saturday, December 15 2012, 1:01PM

    “Come to sunny RATHKEALE for your Christmas Holiday !

    http://tinyurl.com/bug9dvl

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