“Poll Dancer, Davos

I am Poo-litical, Swansea and not a James!

If I was, "apologist for the ruling group", as you state, then I would not have stated in an earlier posting, "the Political Parties can be tarred with the same brush"! Perhaps you have a problem with factual evidence!

Our Councillors are notorious for having 'Handbags at ten paces' Public sessions with each other, so a report going to the Ombudsman from Swansea Council is not such an unusual event!

As you consider yourself to be such a well informed Social Interpreter, why don't you comment on the Bendy buses on the relevant part of this website!?”

“@Poo-litical, Swansea.
As I stated before, you are an apologist for the ruling group i.e. the LibDems.
Tuff Poo, James!

The article is about Cllr. Holley's decision to report 32 fellow Cllrs. to the Ombudsman, at huge expense, on an issue that I would have thought could have been dealt with internally.

If you want to post comments about buses, there's a new EP article on the subject.”

“Poll Dancer, Davos

From your own list, the LC2 and the Bus Station are problems the last Labour led Administration failed to deal with! Social Services are problematic all over the UK. regardless which Political Party is in power at any given Council! The Slip Bridge was a Health & Safety hazard, so had to be pulled down! The Liberty Stadium should be self paying by those who are Party to the contract with the Council. The IT project should never have been contracted without specific, guaranteed assurances given by the IT provider! The Bendy buses have more than proven that they will be a great benefit to the city! It is only moaning car drivers and some people that don't use the Bendy buses, that appear to detest the Purple marvels! However, the Lib Dems management of Swansea Council hasn't exactly been as business like or strategically gifted, as we would like or expect!

P.S. I hope you enjoy your time at being a Pole Dancer!”

“Could someone who actually supports this lib/dem council of ours tell us what have they actually done for Swansea which could be seen as good business. From comments read @ witness on many issue's these Lib/Dems councillors are not party orientate, but chances who would have been a member of any party so long as they could get into the financial bandwagon .”

“If this is what the Lib Dems are like running a council, can you imagine what they would be like running the country? Just as well they are considered a joke party by the wider electorate.”

“EP article: "Council walkout probe returns" Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:30
Still available on this website.
Extract: "In view of additional information received, the Ombudsman decided that councillor Holley's complaint should be investigated."
I wonder what the additional information was, who provided it, at what cost, and who paid?”

“pole dancer
swiss off mun!! I think you talk a lot of bendy poo ones”

“@Poo-litical, Swansea.
I could not care less what you call Holley & Co. The final paragraph of my last posting is directed at Swansea's LibDems who have screwed-up, in one way or more: -
The I.T. Project
LC2
Liberty Stadium
Slip Bridge
Bendy-bus
Bus Station
Social Services etc.”

“Poll Dancer, Davos, (or should I say, 'Troll' Dancer!?)

Where have you been over the last few years, on your 'Trolly' days, Poll Dancer!?

Of course the Political Parties can be tarred with the same brush! MP's from all the main Parties had their noses in the same 'gravy train' trough over the Expenses! Some Local Council Politicians are no better at not working within the Publics interest! I am in no doubt that the Opposition Parties to the Lib Dem led Council would indeed do exactly what Hollley and his pals did! This is not being 'apologist' as you state, but being a 'realist'!

With regards to the Oppostion Parties abilities to show dissent, there is nothing to stop them doing this not only at normal full Council meetings, but in the press and other media channels such as internet sites, which they do have! The problems the Swansea electorate have with the Opposition Parties, is that they are, sadly, not a credible Opposition in the first place! We have the Conservative leader in the Council, a former Lib Dem Councillor, making ageist comments and the leader of the Labour group, David Phillips, attacking the country's leading Supermarket group, Tesco, recently for their investment in our Region! We are so blessed with such enlightened individuals!

As I have already stated, it is not always possible to be fully open in government due to Financial & Legal considerations and this would apply to whoever was in charge of County Hall's keys! However, if openness is promised, openness should be delivered (that takes into account the above Caveats)!

The three main Parties have all been guilty of putting their 'schoolyard antics', into the hands of the Public Services Ombudsman!

Lastly, Poll Dancer, I did not state; "To call the CCS leader and his group "Liberal Democrats.....", as you say, so I suggest a trip to Specsavers should be your next 'Democratic' decision!”

“@Poo-litical, Swansea.
Trying to tar all political parties with the same brush is a standard ploy of someone who, at superficial level, seems to be apolitical but is in fact an apologist for the ruling group. Your suggestion that all political parties would resort to the same actions as those of Cllr. Holley is simply not true.

In 2004 Swansea LibDems were elected on an "openness and transparency" ticket. Since then, they have bungled their way through at an enormous cost.
EP readers have posted comments recently asking for reasons why Swansea's opposition Cllr.s do not protest about LibDem mismanagement. Well, the article above reveals but one example of how Holley & Co. deals with dissent.
Bear in mind, the 32 10kilo packages contain a draft report so, there will be more expense to come.

To call the CCS leader and his group "Liberal Democrats" is an insult to anyone who is either a liberal or a democratic or both.”