Swansea Vale travellers on the move — but not very far at all

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Thursday, September 13, 2012
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South Wales Evening Post

TRAVELLERS are being moved from their site in Swansea Vale because of a flood defence improvement scheme.

Residents living close to Mill Stream Way in Llansamlet reported vehicles moving on to the site yesterday, in order to pave the way for a new base for travellers.

  1. Work gets under way at the new travellers’ site

    Work gets under way at the new travellers’ site

Swansea Council said the travellers at the Swansea Vale site were being moved there to allow an Environment Agency flood project to go ahead.

But some residents have complained that they were not informed of the move before work began.

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One said: “If there are any works in Swansea then people have to be notified.

“But they have not done that here.

“The local population has not been consulted. There is a total lack of communication, why isn’t the council being transparent?”

Last summer, Swansea Council was ordered to spend money providing toilets, running water and electricity at the Swansea Vale site after children living there wrote to the Children’s Commissioner for Wales, Keith Towler, explaining that the lack of basic facilities was having a bad impact on them.

But residents have called for the new cost of moving the travellers to be revealed.

One resident said: “How much is this going to cost? It is money which could be much better spent on education, welfare, or a hundred better things.

“Why could the travellers not be asked to move to a corner of the Swansea Vale site? It is big enough as it is.”

Llansamlet councillor Penny Matthews said: “The people of Llansamlet were told there would only be one site and that there would not be another.”

A spokesman for Swansea Council said: “The site that the traveller family is currently occupying is part of a £7 million flood defence improvement scheme set to be carried out by the Environment Agency.

“The traveller vehicles, along with the existing facilities they have been provided with, are being moved a short distance to an area not included in the flood defence programme.

“Consultation has already started with local businesses and residents in areas where flood risks are set to be reduced.”

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  • Profile image for Portal_Bot

    by Portal_Bot

    Monday, December 17 2012, 10:00PM

    “It has to be Llansamlet.
    Look at the fact that this old article has been dug up.
    It has to be Llansamlet.”

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    by Hadoken6842

    Monday, December 17 2012, 4:47PM

    “Trust me, the *****s are coming to llansamlet and the council are doing things slowly at a time to slowly break the public in. If you cant see it you are blind.

    They love it here, all the scrap metal dealers are around there, and its close to the M4.

    Swansea council have already sold much of the land in *****grove and heol las to an ex traveller family who are trying to build another gypsy site and are currently appealing, the council let them have the land for peanuts and its now become a puppy farm and breeding sanctuary for all sorts of animals, which are frankly treated inhumane, just humane enough for the RSPCA to not do anything but they are apparently full of worms, next to no human contact, locked in drafty cold boxes 24/7 while they swan around in new cars thinking they own the place.

    If you dont belive me, then take a look down by a place called scotts pitt and its there for anyone to see.

    Swansea council are clearly testing the waters, they are doing things bit by bit, but the reality is they are coming around here and they are gaining employment by other gypsy families who only employ their own kind and try and intimidate anyone in their way.

    What do you expect, people around here just roll over and do nothing and let it happen, but llansamlet will soon be the ***** capital of wales.

    FK swansea council for what they have done to this area.”

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    by Neathboy234

    Monday, December 17 2012, 9:50AM

    “Clearly not a suitable site, I can see a big compo claim heading the way of Swansea council. And they have only got themselves to blame.”

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    by JohnSW4

    Monday, December 17 2012, 9:45AM

    “Just to clear up a few important facts about this madness! The travelers that are parked on the Park and Ride where originally parked across the road the other side of accountants and solicitors and out of sight from the road! Those business complained and had them forcibly removed. One of our local Councillors John Hague attended with the police and he give them verbal permission to stay at the park and ride that why the council lost the court case to remove them later! That site has cost the tax payer a fortune £90,000 to clear rubbish and specialist teams to power was hundreds of yards of human feces, The council where forced into putting toilets and running water and rightly so. The cost to date of all of this must be breath taking and I wonder if the figures will be release for us the mugs to see where "our" taxes are going because the cost of the clean up is far far from being over there are tyres in the undergrowth in front of the solicitors and accountants that the environment are ignoring or trying to! I was at the LN2ST meeting and the mainly Labour supporting committee even a ex Labour MP they made some if it is true valid points and those where that the Traveler have a long history with that area helping seasonally to work on the fruit farms and later helping to clear scrap metal from the industrial
    waste around Lansamlet! Well this certainly makes them Llansamlet residents and they must be allowed to remain where they have lived for generations! They have the facility's of the scrap yards located in the Enterprise park! Well LN2TS hope you will embrace the traveling community try to be tolerant and integrate with your old neighbours and above all try not to make the other areas in Swansea East who have no experience of living with the travelers have to deal with a Llansamlet problem! The claim that you have one site is petty has that site is so small beside it looks as if the new site will be at J44 and with the labour controlled committee
    LN2TS it is a damage limitation for the now Labour controlled Council and rightly so as this mess is not of their making! I am hoping Keiran Joyce decides to stand for election he would definatly get my vote has he has run circles around our councillors even make him CEO!!”

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    by trailblazer

    Monday, December 17 2012, 7:04AM

    “Bob. I attend meetings and am currently going from door to door to get signatures. My partner and I are very concerned about this, and it will only be a few hundred metres from the welsh school. Come Summer, we will be able to smell the filth they create wafting across the estates. £110k to clear up, do you want your council tax to fund this rubbish people? Well start joining in and support the movement against this lunacy. Why should we be afraid to speak up?
    These gypsies are no different to the Mafia”

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    by Mami2Rhys

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 11:31PM

    “by BobDavies2

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 6:32PM

    "Right then, GS Vale, mami2rhys, yes it does sound like a ridiculousness name but that's the mentality your dealing with, with the idiots that comment on this site.
    You have to ask the question, when did you participate in any council forum that's available to the public to air your view? probably never!
    Reading your comments, it sounds like your on your high horse with your objections to this gypsy site, and with regard to your stupid comments regarding house prices, that's more to do with government policy, rather than a handful of gypsies, but your probably so thick you cant see it.

    Start playing an active roll in local decisions, then you will be able to lodge your objections, and change things."


    I am not thick if you must know!! I am actually a self employed individual who has worked everyday since I left school to get where I am today. I actually do participate in my local council meetings and am in touch with my local councilors on a regular basis through my work and 'social' life.

    It seems to me that you are nothing but a very rude individual who has nothing better to do than have a go at other for no reason. Oh and by the way my name is accurate, I am Mami to Rhys!!”

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    by BobDavies2

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 6:32PM

    “Right then, GS Vale, mami2rhys, yes it does sound like a ridiculousness name but that's the mentality your dealing with, with the idiots that comment on this site.
    You have to ask the question, when did you participate in any council forum that's available to the public to air your view? probably never!
    Reading your comments, it sounds like your on your high horse with your objections to this gypsy site, and with regard to your stupid comments regarding house prices, that's more to do with government policy, rather than a handful of gypsies, but your probably so thick you cant see it.

    Start playing an active roll in local decisions, then you will be able to lodge your objections, and change things.”

  • Profile image for Mami2Rhys

    by Mami2Rhys

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 2:57AM

    “Why are these people being allowed to stay on these sites? I for one am sick of working my butt off for my money to be spent on making their lives more comfortable. They were trespassing on the first 'site' as it is and have not been told to move on as everyone with the authority seems 'afraid' of them. I thought travellers were meant to travel, they haven't moved at all since they have been there!!
    I feel for the people who have to live right by their site and put up with the rubbish, foul language and intimidating behaviour. Having these people around the area cannot be doing anything positive for the house prices or businesses in the area.”

  • Profile image for GSVale

    by GSVale

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 12:06AM

    “Give this link a try https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Millbrook+Drive,+Swansea&hl=en&ll=51.671051,-3.906348&spn=0.00688,0.021136&sll=51.671016,-3.906184&sspn=0.000867,0.002642&oq=millbrook+drive,+swa&gl=uk&hnear=Millbrook+Dr,+Swansea+SA7,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.671017,-3.906185&panoid=RitsEqPaxIkhecpN6GIGpA&cbp=12,174.23,,0,13.29”

  • Profile image for Griff073

    by Griff073

    Saturday, September 15 2012, 10:01PM

    “@BobDavies2
    What do you mean by "Terrible the way parents behave!" They weren't parents swearing they were kids!”

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