Protesters attack revamped plans for turbines
NEW wind farm plans have been submitted for land north of Swansea.
RWE npower renewables wants to build 16 127-metre turbines at Mynydd y Gwair, nine miles north of the city.
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Glyn Morgan
The company's previous 19-turbine application for the site was turned down. It has removed three turbines in response to concerns over an area of peat, and said it had gone to great lengths to listen to people's feedback.
Opposition group Save Our Common Mountain Environment (Socme) said it was prepared for another long fight.
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The majority of the site is common land owned by the Somerset Trust, and lies within one of seven areas in Wales earmarked as suitable for a concentration of onshore wind farms.
RWE said the scheme could potentially produce enough electricity to meet the annual average consumption of some 24,700 homes.
It added that, according to a study it commissioned, the construction of the wind farm could generate up to £8.5 million in South and West Wales, on top of annual fund of up to £240,000 to be spent on the local community.
The UK is expected to generate more and more renewable energy.
RWE project developer Gwenllian Elias said: "RWE has a long-term commitment to Swansea and the surrounding area. Subject to gaining consent, .RWE would offer a community investment package delivered annually to create a valuable, long-term and reliable source of income for the local community."
Socme chairman Glyn Morgan, who grazes sheep at Mynydd y Gwair, described the area as "one of the last wildernesses in West Glamorgan".
He said RWE should have taken stock of the opposition to its previous scheme and the planning inspector's refusal.
"No should mean no," he said.
"Mynydd y Gwair is not the place to put a wind farm, yet they are still pursuing it. It makes a mockery of the planning system."
Mr Morgan added that Mynydd y Betws, a few miles to the north, was changing for the worse due to a wind farm under construction there.
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Comments
by siarad2
Sunday, September 09 2012, 11:17PM
“@Neathboy234
If you don't know what I've done then why did you pretend to know about me, totally incorrectly too.
You're being obtuse to assume I was talking of your working life as I clearly spoke of my 1970s green experiments I've previously written here & nothing to do with my working life, of which you would have known considering your portrayal of me but of course it was totally incorrect.
You may think you're perspicacious but actually superficial.”
by Neathboy234
Sunday, September 09 2012, 7:48PM
“siarad2 Not sure what you got up to in the early 70's. Me i've done lots of things. If you talking about what i've done with my working life, i tend not to be that shallow. When i talk about what i've done, it tends to be what i've done outside work. I'm not my job. PS if your trying to find out how many women i've been to bed with i'm not telling U”
by siarad2
Sunday, September 09 2012, 10:22AM
“@Neathboy234
Must be nice in your little cloud-land oblivious to others.
When have I said I'm against green energy - NEVER
More than any other poster I've championed various real green energy, not pie in the sky wind & given URL instances too. I don't make things up I research & give instances, it's what engineers do.
Further I've given instances of my own experiments in the early 1970s, what have you ever done.”
by Neathboy234
Saturday, September 08 2012, 10:51PM
“by Dai_ChotomyThursday, September 6 2012, 8:55PM
"And I will lay you a tomato to a straight banana that they will want to bring the heavy loads through Pontardawe!"
Dai is there any reason it shouldn't go through Pontardawe, U don't half make a fuss over nothing. I might even make a special case of it and come and watch as they come thundering through the town. I guess U will be the guy standing there going red in the face.”
by Neathboy234
Saturday, September 08 2012, 7:27PM
“siarad2 It must be so frustrating for you, all these new wind turbines being built. On and on you rant, and known in power takes a blind bit of notice.
I wonder if like all the other green energy haters U also hate the EU, assembly and immigration. it does seem to be a common trend with your type”
by siarad2
Saturday, September 08 2012, 4:55PM
“"RWE said the scheme could potentially produce enough electricity to meet the annual average consumption of some 24,700 homes."
And pigs might fly!
Oh! just seen 'potentially' i.e. fingers crossed, what a laugh.
"Wind farms provide no useful energy"
http://tinyurl.com/297xlw
"A problem with wind power"
http://tinyurl.com/clm56up
"Denmark (population 5.3 million) has over 6,000 turbines that produced electricity equal to 19% of what the country used in 2002. Yet no conventional power plant has been shut down"
Denmark has to export energy at a loss in order to get rid of it to prevent damage to its grid.
Ireland refuses to take wind energy from us due to the damage it does to equipment.
Why is wind power so expensive
http://tinyurl.com/c9cy54r
Total UK wind energy today 0.598GW, wow enough to boil 270k kettles, that's everyone in Swansea, sooo worthwhile.”
by Neathboy234
Saturday, September 08 2012, 1:50PM
“Just thinking i wonder if Glyn Morgan has ever been up a mountain or even a hill!!!”
by weslangdon
Saturday, September 08 2012, 12:01PM
“I am more than happy for windfarms to be built but the communities that host them need to see a community benefit too. Its basically the s106 argument that applies to housing developments. For housing it means a proportion for social housing, this can vary between 10 and 25% so using the same argument 10-25% of the Windmills should be community property.”
by Neathboy234
Saturday, September 08 2012, 9:27AM
“immigrant1 In England they are not. In Wales anything that comes before planning will be looked at on an economic basis first. If it will create jobs, and promote growth they will look at it. Saying that Wind farms will be turned down anyway, thank god the larger ones are still under the control of Westminster.
BTW did u say BBC news yesterday. Whats's going on in the arctic tells me it's a bit all to late anyway. Perhaps when the price of food as doubled in 20 years time as a result of climate change people might see thing different. Of course most of the climate deniers tent to be old grumpy men anyway, 90% of them will be dead in 20 years time, Thankfully”
by immigrant1
Saturday, September 08 2012, 5:58AM
“Neathboy234 - some people seem to have it in for you even though you sometimes talk a bit of sense. Can't see why you have so many down arrows for working 4 days on and 4 days off. I currently work 2 days a week, so I should get plenty of down arrows. Lots of jealous people out there. I always think of them working as I relax by the pool.”