Mynydd y Gwair wind farm approved by Swansea Council committee

“A few years ago a government report said 440,000 turbines would only supply 20% of the UK's needs and that was assuming weather conditions were ok. These turbines do not work when the wind is to high and are very inefficient. To supply the country with it's requirements, upwards of 2.2million turbines would be required and totally destroying the countryside. The countryside is being systematically destroyed by a bunch of morons with a God complex, as jwelshman said, at the next election, vote these money grabbing scum out of office.”

“jwelshmanFriday, February 08 2013, 9:32AM "Why are we in Wales allowing our countryside to be ruined? In England there are very few sites being used and certainly none of those of outstanding beauty........unfortunately for Wales and Scotland, it's these areas that are the windiest areas of the UK see the following Met Office wind info http://tinyurl.com/bb58ovh The areas in England which are suitable for wind turbines are the South West (Cornwall etc) and the North East. Wind Turbines are a political toy Any serious professional engineer will tell you that Wind Turbines are one of the most inefficient method of generating a continuous supply of electricity. What's worst with Wind Turbines is the blade shadow flicker and the subaudible resonance of the turbine mast on the huge concrete slab. There's been enough Wind Turbines installed around the world that have confirmed the worst fears of noise, flicker, resonance and lower generating output than initially quoted by the operators. Most Wind farm systems never make enough money from the electricity generated by the turbines to pay for it's installation and only make a financial return to it's operators based on the tax payers subsidies given by Government. Here in Wales we are mugs for allowing Local Authorities and Wind Farm operators to get away by approving these installations.”

“Some official facts:
The rip-off is quoting power, MW, pretty meaningless instead of energy, MWh.
My car has a power of 80kW but thankfully isn't consuming fuel sat in my drive, likewise turbines don't produce energy equal to their power for MOST of the time.
Those turbines, 4,366, only produced last year 19,914,295 MWh of energy from an installed power of 8292MW i.e only 27% of power.
No conventional power stations have been hurt in the making of this :-)

What is the point of wind power's vast subsidies if we have to keep all the existing power stations as backup. This 'spinning reserve' negates 7% of wind energy generated, cutting that 27% to nearer 25%, equivalent to generating just 6 hours a day a 42 hour working week! within the EU working time directive LOL”

“Despite building these monuments to the false god CO2, it continues to grow in power.
What next human sacrifice!”

“weslangdon has got it right when he calls for land reform & placing ownership back in the hands of the people & for the common good. What needs to be examined is how the ownership of the land was established. Unfortunately no-one in power, whatever their political persuasion, will contemplate even discussing the removal of those in-bred parasites known as the monarchy or their degenerate hangers-on, the so-called aristocracy.

If we have to have wind-farms - a much better alternative than nuclear power - then let local people benefit, not the avaricious "absent landowners"!”

“Now that Bob Dylan is going to do a concert here in Swansea, how about a bit of his songs?


How many roads must a man walk down, before you can call him a man?
How many mistakes must a man make, befor he will realize he was wrong?

I feel sorry for the people near these turbines.”

“Looks like the Ospreys will be looking for new sponsorship soon, as RWE will pull the deal on them once the work has started......it'll be the old fashioned 2 finger salute followed by thanks but no thanks, we only used you in an attempt to win over the Ospreys rugby fans.......interestingly there were even a few season ticket holders on the planning committee who all voted in favour......hope they won't be too disappointed when RWE leave the Ospreys.”

“by weslangdon
Spot on! And you have Etonian Boot lickers like David Attenborough that will say and do what ever their establishment want Joe public to here! Wind farms are useless they have scared the most underestimated beautiful country side of gods own country Wales! We will receive bread crumbs while subsidizing those useless monstrosity's and the real money goes mainly out of this country to foreigners and the Duck of Beaufort should whistle for his share! And you can bet Attenborough wont be living anywhere near them where he could see them through a pair of binoculars!”

“Why are we in Wales allowing our countryside to be ruined? In England there are very few sites being used and certainly none of those of outstanding beauty. The profits of such destruction will certainly not end up in our pockets but will go to London and spent on pointless projects like the HSR all outside of Wales. I suggest alist of all those who voted in favour be published so that the electorate can kick them out at the soonest possible date.”

“Here is something that Sir David Attenborough has to say on the subject of wind turbines

The television presenter described wind turbines as "elegant structures in harmony with nature".

"Wind power can never provide for all our wants but every bit of power generated by wind must be welcomed," he said. "Even if we only generate a fraction of what our country needs in this way, then we must."
Sir David said the "rhythmic noise of wind" is trivial compared to mechanical sounds like aircraft noise and the health problems caused by pollution for fossil-fuelled power stations.
"To suggest the rhythmic puff of wind is comparable to the death of thousands of people through lung disease is laughable," he added.”