Independence is only option

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Thursday, October 18, 2012
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South Wales Evening Post

SCOTLAND is forging ahead towards independence under the dynamic leadership of Alex Salmond.

Her people are gaining self confidence enough to throw off the backward, class-ridden Government in London and join the free self-governing countries of the world. Meanwhile in Wales, we are going nowhere under the visionless, leadership of Carwyn Jones.

Wales deserves better. If people in England want a Tory Government let them get on with it but count us out. People here in Wales deserve the same freedoms and have as much right to govern ourselves as the Scots.

We have a long tradition of collective community government. Wales has never voted in a majority of Tory MPs or AMs since people were allowed to vote in 1832. England has a totally different class-ridden political tradition.

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The Labour Party has tried to export the Welsh tradition to England and always fails.

It has been elected in England in recent years by throwing away all its Welsh socialist traditions and policies and creating New Labour, a third rate Tory Party.

It is time we joined the Scottish people and got rid of London Government.

We will only solve our economic problems when we have a dynamic Welsh Nationalist Government running a Welsh State.

Keith Parry

Preswylfa Street, Cardiff

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  • Profile image for sochat

    by sochat

    Sunday, October 21 2012, 7:26PM

    “muckywind

    Tut Tut Tut”

  • Profile image for mw0cnd

    by mw0cnd

    Sunday, October 21 2012, 10:59AM

    “sochat! are you a full or part time dick-head! or just another run of the mill right wing tory pleb! being that you seem to like to call people names.it seems to me that you are just another moron that hides behind their computer screen and wouldnt say Boo! in the real world one that would run a mile like most slimeball cowards anyway back on subject you will find we in wales could pay our own way! and pay the nhs bill now! sochat go and crawl back under that rock that you crawled out of! theres a good boy!!”

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    by newsaffair

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 10:33PM

    “Surely independence has its different meanings to different people,my veiw is that when all the holes in the ship are repaired,and not before,then can we all look forward to the journey,without fear of sinking.”

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    by sochat

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 12:33PM

    “muckywind,neathboy234.

    You both have to take on board that old saying,he who pays the piper calls the tune.Wales couldnt even pay its N.H.S bill.”

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    by Neathboy234

    Friday, October 19 2012, 3:47PM

    “mw0cnd your right there are quite a few people on here who are more than happy to insult someone whist sat behind their computer, but would be too afraid in the real world. BTW when i say quite a few it's probably the same with half a dozen different profiles. Some little weedy guy who dreamed of being a soldier sailor fireman, but never quite made it due to his 34 inch chest and flat footed feet.

    Coming to the main point about Independence for both Scotland and Wales, what the unionists fail to understand is that never is a very very long time. And also nationalists only have to get lucky just the once. In 1979 all the little englanders though devolution was gone for good, that was their biggest mistake. These sad people thought that forever was longer than 18 years. How angry must they be, and how i enjoy reading about their rage on here.”

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    by mw0cnd

    Friday, October 19 2012, 1:56PM

    “Nice try there bennyhill4 but that's your opinion that I'm ranting and raving and getting myself worked up over nothing. I think its got a lot to do with what you wrote . Remember before you go bandying words like (delusional fanatic )about at people which I took great offence at please don't expect me to lie down and take it. you see in the real world you wouldn't say that to my face because of the consequences so isn't it nice some are able to hide behind a computer screen ;) and call people names. I have to agree with neathboy234 that "I don't think Independence will be happening anytime soon, here in Wales but in the near future I think its possible because there will be a younger generation . I wish the people of Scotland all the best if they chose to leave or stay in the union of the uk at the end of the day its up to them its their choice that's what democracy's all about .”

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    by Neathboy234

    Friday, October 19 2012, 11:47AM

    “I don't think Independence will be happening anytime soon, but what we will see is further powers being devolved all the time. I think limited tax powers should be the next step, followed by our own independent law system. Even with those new powers wales will have less self control that your average American state. It's all about democracy, something that sticks in the throat of your average unionist.”

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    by bennyhill4

    Friday, October 19 2012, 11:34AM

    “mw0cnd, Over the years i have read and listened to many people about various topics,whether i agree with them or not the one thing i found was that they put their point over in a calm dignified manner.Then along came you with you'r ranting and raving and getting you'r self so worked up in a rage that you posted the same thing twice. I would suggest that you are not the person to champion the case for independence because you are doing it more harm than good,just look at all the red arrows you get every time you post on here Wake up and smell the coffee”

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    by mw0cnd

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 10:00PM

    “Jiffy so what's your point the mans a member of Plaid Cymru? so what? he's got his own mind and he's able to speak it that's free speech .if you don't like it tuff luck that's your problem. there's many who are labour and Tory supporters on here who spout off! with their bigoted views. The same kind of people if you put a sheep up for them to vote for they would believe me I have met many of them and like you what a sorry bunch they are. And now onto bennyhill4 have you got a problem mate! just because I speak my mind you don't like it. I'm telling the truth people with your mindset are backward. And to answer your question! What part of" THE PEOPLE OF WALES DONT WANT INDEPENDENCE don't you understand. .that's the same people who didn't vote for the national assembly in 1997 or those that voted for more powers no don't like facts do you. so please no more typical unionist BS.and before calling me a fanatic take a good look in the mirror! mate and you will see yourself a run of the mill small minded unionist fanatic staring back that's you by the way. The word delusional fanatic sums you up! Perfectly what a Muppet.”

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    by mw0cnd

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 10:00PM

    “Jiffy so what's your point the mans a member of Plaid Cymru? so what? he's got his own mind and he's able to speak it that's free speech .if you don't like it tuff luck that's your problem. there's many who are labour and Tory supporters on here who spout off! with their bigoted views. The same kind of people if you put a sheep up for them to vote for they would believe me I have met many of them and like you what a sorry bunch they are. And now onto bennyhill4 have you got a problem mate! just because I speak my mind you don't like it. I'm telling the truth people with your mindset are backward. And to answer your question! What part of" THE PEOPLE OF WALES DONT WANT INDEPENDENCE don't you understand. .that's the same people who didn't vote for the national assembly in 1997 or those that voted for more powers no don't like facts do you. so please no more typical unionist BS.and before calling me a fanatic take a good look in the mirror! mate and you will see yourself a run of the mill small minded unionist fanatic staring back that's you by the way. The word delusional fanatic sums you up! Perfectly what a Muppet.”

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