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Wednesday, October 17, 2012
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South Wales Evening Post

BRITAIN'S benefits system encourages claimants to lie and cheat to secure payments, a former welfare minister will claim today.

Labour's Frank Field, who has worked as a poverty adviser to the coalition, will warn that paying out based on need brings out the "worst side of human nature".

Mr Field, who was told to "think the unthinkable" while serving as welfare minister under Tony Blair, will call on his party to back radical reforms that would mean the state paid claimants based mainly on their contributions.

"As we now have a welfare state based on meeting need, this encourages individuals, not unreasonably, to try to ensure that they qualify under this guise. It therefore pays to lie about one's earnings, to cheat, or to be inactive," he will tell the Institute of Economic Affairs today.

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  • Profile image for susiqzz

    by susiqzz

    Friday, October 19 2012, 5:23AM

    “Frank Field is the ONLY MP I'd trust with anything.”

  • Profile image for sipajones

    by sipajones

    Friday, October 19 2012, 1:48AM

    “"this encourages individuals, not unreasonably, to try to ensure that they qualify under this guise"

    In order to be a benefit cheat, a person needs to be earning money somehow, and therefore it suggests that the current system is ensuring people who work earn less than those who don't... so the system of minimum wage needs looking at, perhaps minimum wage based on circumstance (i.e. minimum wage for a mother of 3 needs to be higher than min wage for an 18 yr old live-at-home woman)...”

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    by Neathboy234

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 7:34PM

    “That's the thing many are at it today, just look what our MP's did a few years ago. Shame on everyone i say”

  • Profile image for muffinman235

    by muffinman235

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 7:27PM

    “Another Government smoke screen, another MP on the bandwagon of those who want to demonise anyone on benefits regardless of their need. All this to take the spotlight off the real problem, the greedy banker's and the rich avoiding tax at all costs, the tory Eton Silver Spoon brigade who have never wanted and never will for nothing. Billions in uncollected tax from the rich and squirrelled offshore accounts. The Call me Dave clan are a law unto themselves, and are free to do what they want unchallenged, we have food banks springing up across the country, soon to be followed by Soup Kitchens. What next? the return of the workhouse? bet it's on "Call me Dave's agenda" , the public have been converted to the theory that everyone including disabled people are benefit scrounging scum. remember be careful what you wish for as you could become unemployed or disabled and need help from a welfare system that is a dead parrot..”

  • Profile image for cymroun

    by cymroun

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 7:06PM

    “I work full time and don't claim anything but I do know someone (my girlfriend) who got made redundant two years ago after 17 years in the same job (paying just above the minimum wage) and found herself approx £50 a week, almost £200 a month better off on benefits, at the moment there doesn't seem to be any incentive to work and until we make it worthwhile financially to work for a living nothing is going to change.”

  • Profile image for GretaCarbo

    by GretaCarbo

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 7:05PM

    “Frank Field, one of Thatcher's friends when she was PM, says, 'paying out based on need brings out the "worst side of human nature".'
    Yeh, the need to survive is unforgivable.
    Paying out based on greed seems to be o.k. though.
    Forget the £billions in uncollected taxes. Go for poor and get brownie points.”

  • Profile image for dick_e

    by dick_e

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 6:19PM

    “Thing is, why struggle along in a job on min national wage when you can struggle along on benefit instead?
    The national wage MUST be increased and decent tax incentives properly implemented in order for there be an incentive to go out to work”

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    by sochat

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 5:28PM

    “I see all the welfare claiments are attacking Frank Field,”

  • Profile image for Gwyddno

    by Gwyddno

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 2:25PM

    “Holy Bank Bonus Batman!
    £12.6million is less than half of what Charlie Sheen got last year.”

  • Profile image for Dooyah

    by Dooyah

    Thursday, October 18 2012, 1:35PM

    “Benefit fraud est £12.5million
    Get off JSA and form a Welfare 2 Work scam - £1billion available.
    Think Vodaphone. Think Facebook. Think Amazon. Think Tax Haven.”

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