Carmarthenshire parking fees plan 'a tax on religion', claims churchman
PLANS to scrap free Sunday parking in Carmarthenshire have been criticised by church leaders.
The county council estimates it can raise £56,000 to put towards keeping services running by bringing in the charges.
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It is now planning to talk to local communities and businesses about the move.
But church leaders across the county have spoken of how the plans will affect congregations.
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Reverend David Jones, of Greenfield Baptist Chapel, Llanelli, said the proposal would have a devastating impact on Sunday services.
"It would be a backward step," he said.
"Our people use the multi-storey car park, it's highly regrettable to hear this news."
Canon Michael Lloyd Rees, minister of Betws and Ammanford, said Sunday parking charges would affect church-goers.
"It will affect those who come here to St Michael's Church," he added.
"There needs to be a bit of respect given to the community who use the facilities.
"Why should people be penalised for going to church?"
Reverend Leigh Richardson, vicar of St Peter's Church in Carmarthen, described charging for parking on a Sunday as a tax on religion.
He said: "It is going affect us greatly.
"Going to church is a freedom people in this country have enjoyed for centuries.
"Being charged to go to church is a tax on religion and it happens nowhere else in the world."
The church will be meeting with Carmarthenshire Council officials to discuss the plans on Tuesday, March 26.
Canon Patrick Thomas, Vicar of Christchurch in Lammas Street, Carmarthen, said the proposal was "very sad".
He added: "There is something special about Sundays, they are part of our culture in Wales, and that should be protected."
Carmarthenshire Council says it is facing a cuts to its funding from the UK and Welsh governments. It says it needs to raise money to balance its books and keep frontline services running.




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by ManxStuart
Monday, March 11 2013, 7:00PM
“For a man of the cloth, Reverend Leigh Richardson is surprisingly uninformed on church history and practice.
For example, "Going to church is a freedom people in this country have enjoyed for centuries."
Well, no it isn't. Until the 19th century attendance was compulsory, and it is only thanks to the efforts of religious dissenters that anyone could even choose WHICH church or denomination, and to the atheist MP Charles Bradlaugh that we have true freedom of belief since.
Or,"Being charged to go to church is a tax on religion and it happens nowhere else in the world."
What, then, is the tithe, why is there a point in all church services when money is collected from the communicants, and why do even the poorest attending feel under such social pressure to give money they cannot afford?
But really, why this unholy fuss about paying to park a car? Shouldn't Christians, as stewards of their Invisible Friend's creation, be walking, taking a bus, or at least car-sharing? My dear grandmother - a real old school Salvationist - always did say her fellow worshippers got too soft when they went all middle class and started swanning about in fancy cars!”
by Katie13
Saturday, March 09 2013, 2:50PM
“Among other occasions, I have to pay to park while I do my volunteering work, while I visit people in hospital, while I'm collecting for charity, while I'm shopping for my neighbour, and while I am attending my chosen social clubs. Why should I have to subsidise the parking of people whose chosen social club is called a church? The suggestion that sitting on a church pew is somehow worthier, especially to the extent of deserving state subsidy, than any other activity is ludicrous. I understand that the removal of any benefit can be, in the short term, upsetting for anyone; but it's not so long since most of us didn't have to pay to park in our town centres. It's time for churches, and church-goers, to accept reality and stop thinking themselves special.”
by Katie13
Saturday, March 09 2013, 2:27PM
“Among other occasions, I have to pay to park while I do my volunteering work, while I visit people in hospital, while I'm collecting for charity, while I'm shopping for my neighbour, and while I am attending my chosen social clubs. Why should I have to subsidise the parking of people whose chosen social club is called a church? The suggestion that sitting on a church pew is somehow worthier, especially to the extent of deserving state subsidy, than any other activity is ludicrous. I understand that the removal of any benefit can be, in the short term, upsetting for anyone; but it's not so long since most of us didn't have to pay to park in our town centres. It's time for churches, and church-goers, to accept reality and stop thinking themselves special.”
by victor-mildew
Friday, March 08 2013, 5:19PM
“I always say, if people truly wanted to follow Christ, they'd spend their Sunday mornings doing good for others, not singing songs to god in an expensive building and patting themselves on the back for being good Christians!”
by godisalie
Friday, March 08 2013, 12:21PM
“Live a life free from delusion - Go Atheist, you know it makes sense.”
by maxmin
Friday, March 08 2013, 11:56AM
“Dewbree Thoughtful comments well expressed.”
by Neathboy234
Friday, March 08 2013, 11:54AM
“Sunday is like every other day of the week and the sooner church goers realize that the better. After all just as many muslims go to Friday prayer, and that's' not a special day”
by dewbree
Friday, March 08 2013, 11:49AM
“I think people can be moral and lead a good life without using religion as a moral compass. The god of the old testament pretty much wiped out all of humanity apart from Noah and his family because he didn't like what humans were doing. And depending what other holy books you read the punishment for turning your back on religion and choosing not to follow certain faiths anymore is death.
I agree that there are a lot of good stories in holy books and there are some good examples of people being decent, but the negative stories far outweigh the good ones.
at a guess, 90% of all religious people are fine and upstanding people. But the fanatical side of religion is accountable for so many deaths. You don't see many fanatical atheists killing people just for having a different opinion.
You have the catholic church that has covered up so many dodgy priests and their wrong doings with children that were in their care. They would rather people die of HIV than educate them on the use of condoms.
The first gospel of the New testament was written approx 50 years after the death of Jesus. The bible was then put together by a Constantine in roughly 320ad purely to be used as tool to control people.
With so much evidence being available to support various theories, such as the big bang, evolution etc. I don't see how organized religion has a place in modern society. Religion has never changed its ideas or thoughts on anything since it was first created by man all those years ago. Science will change theories in accordance with what evidence is provided.
I find it difficult to believe that so many people live their life hoping for rewards in the afterlife. If these rewards don't ever happen, no one can ever come back to complain.
In the big picture we all live a very short life, hopefully with people that we love and care for. My personal outlook is that I want the rewards with the people here and now and live my life accordingly.
This is my first time of ranting on here so forgive me for going on a bit. I'm going to do some work now before I get the sack!!”
by immigrant1
Friday, March 08 2013, 11:47AM
“The taxpayers aren't here to fund religious activities. Fund them yourself. Why should non-religous people pay more tax so that religious people can park for free?”
by maxmin
Friday, March 08 2013, 10:55AM
“Sod that should read 'by everyone' not 'my everyone'”