“Philip Swansea

watch making is now electronic based so look at micro machining , they now make hundreds of parts from cogs to ecapement levers in one go. Look to modern skills, stop living in the past, study something worth studying. I can still cut a screw thread or ream a hole but I can also draw 25 or more transitors on a hair from your head. Bring skilled jobs to Wales and not the unskilled like ship dismantling, Newport has cornered the recycling market , did you see that program”

“@Jeffery, dirty town. I did much of my studies involving lathes under supervision of people who used to work the old tick-tock. If you think I got away with not working the machines myself you are only kidding yourself!”

“Philip, Swansea

I see the problem. I was a time served fitter/turner who actually did but you just study . I moved on from working with my hands to working with my head after a bit of extra study. Moved from the steel industry to the electronics industry, Still think ship breaking is unskilled and not needed here.”

“Jeffery, Dirty town- Many of the jobs you speak of are no longer skilled. The jobs of metal fabrication, lathe work and milling are largely replaced by the monitoring of machines and simple maintenance. Automated machinery has replaced the skilled craftsman. Having spent much time with lathes and milling machines as part of my studies I appreciate the skill and experience than faded away when the jobs went. But when you look at the (sometimes unfairly) quality reputation of past British manufacturing you can understand why we've been switched to call centres and warehousing.”

“Ship repair is highly skilled work and pays good wages. Ship braking is a bit more involved than a car brakers. Swansea needs to wake up and smell the roses and embrace the oppertunity.”

“hello Philip, Swansea

saw it quite a while ago, but still think the same way, all it is doing is producing feed material for other processes so doesn't have to work , doesnt need skill, doesnt need precision, can you use a burning lamp. if you can't, you could become world class in about 3 minutes, how many nasties were produced per jumbo? . The towns had a transmission plant and boiler equipmnet manufactures and if you go back long enough a large tinplate plant called Velindre? Those were skilled jobs in their hundreds and now some people are advocating turning part of the the docks into a scrapyard employing 85 . I remember when the town had a large fishing industry working out of the docks, now these buildings are resteraunts and shops”

“pound v euro value makes it finanically good busines to do ship work in uk now.
lots of jobs lost to europe so opportunity to get some work back to uk.
also because of industrial decline not many dry docks available in uk anymore so swansea can benefit.”

“So what jobs do you moaners want? You don't want ship breaking - too hazardous. You don't want a new university campus - don't like students. You don't want nivce new restaurants - too expensive. You don't want upmarket shops in town - too expensive. You don't want call centre jobs - not skilled enough.

So what exactly do you want? Is there any job that is good enough for you?”

“10 skips a day for 4 months including hazardust wast left swansea dry dock during the saga pearl II convertion, and nobody noticed or complained. Lets have the jobs.”

“Well good news for jobs comming to Swansea Docks but at what price, i read a word submarine, does that mean we will be getting nuclear reactor recycling on the Eastside remember the submarine z berth proposal some years ago for the docks that was soon kicked into touch when they looked at the risks to the surrounding areas, so come on the local eastside councillors think this one out very carefully before you decide and all your fellow councillors, to me this is a very high risk propersition to a highly populated area.”