“Again in response to Wayne Morris, Sandfields, Port Talbot, the situation, as you describe, at the DVLA appears to be more of a Management issue on how they implement their Equal Opps Policies and line management of the DVLA employees. Have your friends at the DVLA complained either to senior management or their Union? The DVLA, as a Civil Service employer, have to comply to the Civil Service Commisioners code of being a good employer etc. The Chief Executive of the DVLA would be responsible for the actions of his Managers, if allegations are proven. Also, we have an Employment Tribunal system in the UK if workers consider to have been mistreated in the workplace.

You also appear to be wanting the UK to pull out of the European Union! What sort of fool are you Wayne!? We get many Economic benefits including not having to pay Tariffs on our goods to EU states! About 80% of Welsh Exports are to EU states. It took many years for the UK to become EU Members and it would be a costly excercise to leave the EU.

I agree with Greg, the Poles (and other East Europeans) I know, are hardworking.

A number of Immigrants do jobs we Brits do not want to do. Many of our 'ancestors' have 'mixed' with people from other countries for relationship purposes etc. Thus weakening your arguments against Immigration.

If some British people do not have the right skills employers want, you cannot reasonably expect Brits to be taken on in employment just because they are Brits! It is important that everyone has the same rights in this country as long as everyone is here legaly.

In reference to the problems you had in obtaining a college course in Newport, if it states in the Policies of the college that Tuition fees are waived for disabled students, then of course, the college should honour that Policy and you have the right to complain if you feel you have been discriminated against due to disability. Also, since September 2002, when the SENDA regulations came into force, you may have Statutory Rights as a disabled person. Again, its up to you to complain about how you have been treated.

Sorry Wayne, it is you that appears to have lost any sense of reality, not me!”

“Greg

People working in the DVLA have told me on more than one occasion that their manager has told them that in future they will only be employing Poles. That is both wrong and illegal. The people working with the Poles and other East Europeans are complaining because they are having to do their work, they make out they cannot speak English properly as and when it suits them, yet other times they can speak it quite adequately.
Greg, what I am stating has come from a family member who has to put up with this every day. No Greg, what I am stating is a fact which has come from more than one person”

“Wayne, it's not often I agree with something Jim Sheridan says but in this case I do.

It's always dangerous making generalisations either way but I would I feel confident in saying that without exception, the Eastern European people I have met working in the UK have all been hard working. It's a major step for someone to move across a continent to work in another country and to me it shows drive and ambition. Equally, the majority of people from the UK are also hard working but I believe there is a large minority who feel that life owes them a living,”

“Jim Sheridan

Do you really believe what you saying? If so you must be really nieve. The theory behind the law is brilliant but a lot of the time it is ignored. The DVLA would take on foreign workers before British workers and it has happened even though it should not because they are supposed to have equal rights under EC law. That is one reason I advocate leaving the EU because we should come first in our country and they should come first in theirs.
Not every Pole or other East European are good workers some as DVLA have found are very bad workers and don't even turn up on the first day. That is the reality of the matter. You can state the law as it is, and which is ignored as much as can be got away with. You can state the propaganda as much as you wish but reality is totally different.

As far as local people having to fight to obtain employment before immigrants is concerned, I agree people should obtain whatever skills they need to be able to do the job which is something I have argued for many, many years but our people should still come first. Our ancestors built this country up for us not for them. They should build their countries up too.
You say people should obtain whatever skills they need to persuade employers to take them on, could you justify this to me? Recently I tried to sign up in a college in Newport to do a course. Newport is the nearest place I could do the course. Even though I have a proven disability and so should be exempt from tuition fees according to the college's own criteria I am not. Yet, asylum seekers who have contributed nothing to this country, have no loyalty to it and the vast majority of whom are economic migrants are entitled to an exemption. I have to do the course by distance learning which makes it harder. I am not entitled to any help from the government so have to fund my efforts to get of benefits out of my weekly benefits. Sorry, Jim Sherian, you have no idea of reality.”

“In response to Wayne Morris, Sandfields, Port Talbot, major employers such as the DVLA, take on foreign workers to ensure Equality of Employment Rights and Diversity are balanced within their Multicultural workforces. Diversity in the workplace itself also includes treating fellow employees with the sort of respect which each employee would reasonably expect from any colleague, this includes to and from any foreign workers. Many foreigners, such as Poles, do have a strong work ethic and clearly their talents, experiences and willingness to work should be acknowledged and rewarded like any other employee.

As we are in a global economy, we cannot expect any organisation to employ soley local born people just because they are born in that location, the right to work for any organisation has to be fought for by the individual, regardless of nationaility and it is upto the individual to ensure that the skills they require to secure future employment is what organisations are looking for in any given Economic climate.

Jim Sheridan”